Michael: Yeah, that was excellent. I feel a bit misled by our education system, so I appreciate you both clearing that up for me. Fr. Andrew: Right. Or your elderly aunt comes to you and says, “Your grandmother talked to me last night.” Your dead grandmother. “She came to me.” You’re like: “Uhmm… Well… You know, that’s nice.” Right? We tend to function that way. We don’t give credence to it. Fr. Stephen: It gets complicated, because the Septuagint does it different ways, but, yes, it’s the same kind of idea: God of the powers. The hymn, the trisagion there, the “Holy, holy, holy, Lord Sabaoth,” is being sung by the angels, and it’s a way of the angels expressing and worshiping him as their God. That’s a way we don’t always think about it, and that’s why there’s a similar phrase also in our memorial prayers, which is actually taken directly from the Book of Jubilees, a different piece of Enochic literature, where the prayer begins, “O God of spirits and of all flesh…” Fr. Andrew: Okay, so I want to move on here so we can start taking a couple calls, because Bobby is telling me that we have a lot of people who have called in. Thanks, everybody!

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Fr. Andrew: Because, I mean, he’s the expert, but I do have a couple things I want to throw in here, if only so we can hear him correct me. [Laughter] Lemegeton Clavicula Salomonis: The Lesser Key of Solomon, Detailing the Ceremonial Art of Commanding Spirits Both Good and Evil; ed. Joseph H. Peterson; Weiser Books, Maine; 2001. p. xiii

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Fr. Stephen: Right. “You will die like men.” So the thing we have to keep in mind is that when the Fathers talk about death, St. John of Damascus clearly disambiguates this. There is physical death, and there is spiritual death. Physical death is something that happens to humans where our soul is separated from our body. As you said, angels don’t have mortal bodies, so they can’t die physically in that sense. There’s also, however, spiritual death, which is the spiritual death, which is the separation of the soul or spirit from God. That is the fate that awaits the demonic spirits at the final judgment.

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Chapter 2 (General Elements of the Universe) explains the difference between spiritual and material matter and why spirits are not believed by materialists. Fr. Andrew: Yes, well, we’re probably going to do a whole lot of debunking! [Laughter] Thank you for that, Michael. We’ve got another good angelic name next: Raphael, who has a question or a comment about guardian angels. Raphael, are you there on the line? Now I know that Yahweh is greater than all gods. Because of this affair, they dealt arrogantly with the people. Grimoire journal Leather journal Blank spell book book of shadows Leather Gifts For Him sketchbook journal notebook Chapter 1 (Earthly Joys and Sorrows) is about the meaning of the experiences we have on Earth, both good and bad.The reality is that there are certain things that are just in the Scriptures, whether we as sort of modern Christians with a materialist bent are comfortable with that or not, and they have a way of speaking. From the Victorian era through until probably the 1950s or so, in America, there was sort of a gentlemen’s agreement that we would all sort of paper over these things in our English translations and not push on them too hard. Fr. Stephen: Right, so the term elohim is used to apply to him. The biblical author is not saying that the Prophet Samuel was another person of the Trinity or that he was a polytheist and the Prophet Samuel now lived on Mount Olympus or something. [Laughter] That’s not what he’s going for. The word is just flexible to include that. To create “The Spirits’ Book”, Professor Rivail gathered and sorted through large amounts of information coming from different mediums. His genius lay in the creation of a scientific approach to validate this new information: he created “blind” experiments in which various groups throughout Europe would submit answers to questions he posed them. If similar answers to the same questions were given by different groups (which did not know each other), then they were likely to be true. Put another way, if the information could be “blindly” replicated, it was likely to be correct.

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Fr. Stephen: So we could all be comfortable. The problem is that, if we want to continue to do that as Orthodox Christians, we’re setting ourselves up for a problem with future generations, because while I may not want to get into, say, a passage into the Old Testament that talks about human sacrifice, the atheist roommate of my son or daughter, the atheist professor of my son or daughter is going to have no such qualms about bringing up all of these things. The different corporeal existences of the Spirit are progressive and not regressive. The pace of their progress, however, depends on the effort made towards betterment. Spirits can stagnate for so long that it seems to be an eternity and it can even appear that they have retrograded.

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Fr. Andrew: Maybe. Right, exactly, because that’s one of the things that’s going to be going on. I’m ready to be corrected. I’m ready to learn. But I’m ready to say that good angels cannot be killed by bad angels, because they don’t have mortal bodies. Am I correct in that? We do have an episode we’re going to be talking about spiritual bodies in the future, but this is not it. Fr. Andrew: Yeah, right, sure! I mean, Mt. Hermon, we’re going to talk about the divine council over and over and over and over again on this show. So what does Mt. Hermon have to do with all of that then. In a nutshell. I know.