Pagano-Papismus; Or, an Exact Parallel Between Rome-Pagan and Rome-Christian, in Their Doctrines and Ceremonies

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Pagano-Papismus; Or, an Exact Parallel Between Rome-Pagan and Rome-Christian, in Their Doctrines and Ceremonies

Pagano-Papismus; Or, an Exact Parallel Between Rome-Pagan and Rome-Christian, in Their Doctrines and Ceremonies

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Diatribe upon the first part of the Hist. of Tithes, by Rich. Montague, for Mattk. Lownes, printed 1621. in 4 to. Collect the vocabulary that you want to remember while using the dictionary. The items that you have collected will be displayed under "Vocabulary List".

Animadversions on Mr. Seld. Hist. of Tithes, by Rich, Tollesley, printed by John Bill, 1619. in 4 to. Sixthly, And oft times it falls out, that by the subtilty or elo­quence of Disputants, when they are somewhat evenly match­ed, the Auditory is kept pendulous, or irresolute; even he, perhaps, for whose sake the Dispute or Conference was under­taken, as Ille cujus causa in con­gressum de­scendis Scrip­turarum, ut cum dubitantem confirmes ad veritatem an nagis ad haeresim deverget, hoc ipso motus, quod te videat nihil promovisse aequo gradu negandi & defendendi, certe de pari & altercatione incertior discedit, nesciens quem Haereticum judicet. Ter [...]ul. prae­script. advers. haereticos Tom. 1. c. 18. p. 170. Tertull. sheweth; He, saith Tertullian, for whose cause thou descendest into a Controversie of Scripture, that thou maist confirm him against doubting, it is hard to say whether he tend more to Verity or to Heresie, because he sees thou pre­vailest nothing, the dispute going on in an equal degree of denying and defending: certainly by such a parity in altercation he will depart more uncertain, not knowing what he should judge to be Heresie.Thirdly, But if there were a perfect copy of the Dispute made up by the Doctor and him, that copy was committed to Mr. O. his hand to be promoted to the Press, and no copy kept, whereby it might be known to be truely printed: such was the Doctors candid and suspectless dealing with his adversary, which laid a great engagement upon him, of fair and ingenuous cor­respondence with him again. Aquinas ad. 2d. vol. prim. par. q. 44. ar 4.7. Whether it were convenient that God should require to be beloved with all the heart.

Secondly, I suspected your confidence in committing the copy of your dispute to his publication by the Press, would be abused by him, and so I believe it was more wayes then one, as I have shewed.Eighthly, If there were a necessity that Mr. O. should be fur­ther answered by you, or some body for you, you have three Sons, the youngest of whom would be able enough to under­take him by an Examination and Conviction of his Examinati­on of error and slander, of pride and vanity: but neither would I have any of them put to so unprofitable a Task, because I hear they are all of them dayly employed in better work. Therefore, First for the Turk, Mahomet, (that famous impostor and false Prophet, the founder of that impious and impure Sect of the Mahametans) not onely forbids all disputes about the Religion of his Bible, (rather Babell) the Alcoran, but instructs his deluded disciples how to answer them who are disposed to dispute: Tecum dispu­tare volentibus dic, Deum so [...] omnes tuo; actus agnoscere, qui die postremo lites omnes & contrarietates discutiet. Alcaroni. c. 32. Say unto them, (saith he) God alone knowes all thy acts, and at the last day will discusse all controversies and contrarieties. Again, r to incredulous men say thus, I follow not your Law nor you mine; therefore let me alone with that which is mine, and I will let you alone with yours. CHAP. III. That disputations on matters of Religion are warrantable by Scripture and reason, and not onely lawfull, but sometimes also expedient and profitable. Puritano-papismus: or a Discouerie of Puritan-papisme: made by way of Dialogue or Conference betweene a Protestant and a Puritane,’ London (two editions), 1605, 4to and 8vo.

To these two we may adde two more out of the same Jesuit; but because they are not so modest as the former, I had rather make a marginall note of them, in the Latine words of the Au­thor, then expresse any part of them in my English text: yet be would seem very bashfull to the Popish Bishop Abulensis To­status, who discusseth so obscene a question about circum­cision, that he cannot for shame make mention of it, and there­fore thinketh it best to passe it over in silence; and so do I: there are many of that sort in Sanchez his great bellied book de mat [...]imonio, which maketh good the words of De delectati­one praeputia­torum, &c. Ita pudenda est il­lius oratio & disputatio, ut praester ca silentio praeteriri. Perer. in Genes. 17. disp. 2. p. 596. v. 1. Cū coelibatum profiteantur, nimis [...]e muliebrium rerum peritos testantur. Pareus in Gen. 19. v. 33. Pareus, of the badnesse of such as pretending to live chastly single shew themselves by their discourses too well acquainted with wo­mens matters. Pozoruhodné je, že právě dva z konstantinopolských patriarchů, kteří jsou v Římě nejméně oblíbeni: sv. Fótios Veliký (vyslal na Velkou Moravu sv. Cyrila a Metoděje) a Michal Kerularios (jeden z aktérů velkého schismatu), patří právě k těm nejsilnějším patriarším osobnostem, které nejrozhodněji přesekali všechny vazby caesaropapismu a nechovali podle politiky císařů; spíše naopak - nutili císaře, aby se sjednotil s názorem Církve. Secondly, Though there were copies taken of the dispute, the chief pen-man of the whole was Mr. O. who In the Dis­putat. p. 46. confessith, by reason of a mighty crowd of people he could hardly breathe, or write one perfect sentence of Doctor Brians Sermon: and there might be as much difficulty in taking by his pen other Dictates deli­vered by word. The crowd it is like was very great, for Dr. Brian speaking of seven which took Mr. O. his part in the dis­putation, who were Antipedobaptists; he in his answer saith, J. O. in his Exam. of the Doctors Re­ply. p. 23, 24. he believeth there was seven times seven thrice told that took his part, that is 149. and I believe for one such a one, there was 20. at least of a contrary judgement. Liberal maintenance ma­nifestly due to the Minister. of the Gosp. by Joshuah Meene, printed for Laur. Chapman at Chancery Lane end in Hol­born, Ann. 1638.

The maintenance of Mi­nist. by Tithes, by John Gau­den DD. for Andr. Crook, prin­ted 1653. in 4 to. The Parsons Guide, on the Law of Tithes, by W. S. Esq; printed for Will. Lee, D. Pakemere, and G. Bedel, at their shops in Fleetstreet, printed 1654. in 4 to.

Secondly, The Disputants are to have liberty to revise their own Reasons, Objections, and Solutions, and to correct them by altering, adding, or expunging, so as may make for the a­mendment of their own Arguments and Answers. This liberty Dr. Reynolds and Mr. Hart allowed one another.Sixthly, There are so many now engaged in the defence of the Churches of Christ (for now Mr. O. sets himself against all the Churches of Europe, and New England, besides Old En­gland) that so much work cannot in reason fall to your share, as still to manage the defence of them all against him, or any such obstreperous talker; especially having such a weighty bur­den of pastoral employment continually upon you.



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