To study a culture gives one an indication of where it came from, sometime's where it's going. What we can learn can be extrapolated to other species." For all my aeons, I cannot understand how you draw anything meaningful from this drivel. You know the empire will have to destroy these humans eventually, correct?" Both of these Necrons are scholars. Indeed, it's noted that except for the small detail of being made into undead robot murder machines, any actual fight between them would have been laughable more than anything else - they are best suited for mental rather than physical competition. For the best viewing experience, we recommend using old reddit version - https://old.reddit.com/r/40kLore/ The flesh. If one of these ridiculous fanatics actually found a species for us to transfer our consciousness to. Or say, if Nephreth's body lets us fabricate a new, unspoiled race of necrontyr – would you do it?'

Listen to it because: explore a story told across the millennia that delves deep into a pair of fascinating necron characters, their relationship and their plans for the galaxy. Mistaken Identity: One of Trazyn's exploits ended up this way, as a world he accidentally wound up saving from an Ork invasion ended up seeing Trazyn and his Necron legions as a chapter of oddly-adorned Space Marines, christening them as members of the Silver Skulls chapter and the planet erecting statues in their honor. Trazyn recounting the whole endeavor to Orikan somehow manages to make the Necron's Perpetual Smiler nature even bigger in delight by the absurdity of it all.Explore a story told across the millennia that delves deep into a pair of fascinating necron characters, their relationship and their plans for the galaxy. Most Gods awful 40k novel I've ever bought. For all their aeons of regal-ness & suchlike, they're just grumpy, petty, morons. It's not even so bad that it's funny. I'm 2/3rds in & it's still going nowhere & doing nothing. Painting the Medium: The same scene at the tribunal is repeated multiple times with slight differences, to show Orikan's attempts to Save Scum. Review copy provided by the author – many thanks to Robert Rath for sending me a copy of The Infinite and the Divine, in exchange for my honest review. A subreddit for the lore and stories encompassing the dark future of the Warhammer 40,000 franchise

PDF / EPUB File Name: The_Infinite_and_The_Divine_-_Robert_Rath.pdf, The_Infinite_and_The_Divine_-_Robert_Rath.epub In this light, the novel reads as a manifesto not that Trazyn's brand of cultural scholarship is superior to Orikan's empiricism, but rather that the rivalry itself is stale and artificial, that different forms of knowledge complement each other rather than replace each other. Indeed, the plot forces both protagonists to work together. In the end, they don't just work together, they learn (at least temporarily) from one another. Indeed, this dynamic fuels one of my favourite confrontations of the novel:When I finished reading, I noted that Robert Rath, the author, is also a historian. I'm inclined to think that these overarching themes were quite deliberate, showcasing the author's own reflections on how humans - like Necrons, apparently - struggle to reconcile and profit from different forms of knowledge. Time Master: Orikan is the most skilled chronomancer of all of his kind, and it gets him out of more than a few tight situations. Unskilled, but Strong: Trazyn and Orikan are not skilled warriors (although Orikan did briefly train to be an Immortal when he was alive, making him decent at grappling small foes), but they have bodies that are incredibly durable, immensely strong, and can react much faster than most things in the galaxy, so they are seldom in actual physical danger. There have of course been many, many posts about it on this forum - I don't really post here myself, but I do enjoy lurking as a bit of a guilty pleasure and it's very common to see excerpts, commentary and theories from those who read and enjoyed a 40k book that hit some very different beats to the norm. However, there is one aspect of the book's core themes that hasn't really been highlighted here before as far as I can see, so I decided to break my 'lurking only' rule to share some thoughts. There will be spoilers. Before the being called the Emperor revealed Himself, before the rise of the aeldari, before the necrontyr traded their flesh for immortal metal, the world was born in violence.

He lives in Hong Kong with his family, amid and a growing pile of models he *swears* are for research. Robert Rath is an author and screenwriter from Honolulu, Hawai'i. I absolutely loved this book, from the interesting view of the Necron perspective of the galaxy, to Trazyn just collecting anything that catches his eye. Time Skip: Played with. Most of the book concerns Trazyn and Orikan's repeated visits to the planet Serenade over the course of thousands of years, and each time the planet has changed markedly. To the two of them, however, their Time Dissonance means their experiences are more or less continuous. It does require a little bit of knowledge of the Warhammer 40K universe to fully appreciate, but if you like sci-fi dark comedies, it is well worth the little investment to learn what an "Aeldari" is or what is meant by a Necron's "Necrodermis."

Space Battle: A lengthy one at that. When Orks invade Serenade and threaten the Tomb, Trazyn defends the planets surface while Orikan destroys their ships. As you well know, data can change the systems that take it in. Data can carry a curse. That is impossible. The sermon makes a believer a fanatic. The political treatise turns the indifferent into a revolutionary. A lie exposed ruins a friendship. New information always affects the system that consumes it, at times catastrophically. That is the curse of data. All data. But data can be corrupted as well.”

Before the being called the Emperor revealed Himself, before the rise of the Aeldari, before the Necrontyr traded their flesh for immortal metal, the world was born in violence. This scholastic rivalry is based not just on imagined Necron society, but also the same kind of dynamics that fuel competing theories of knowledge today. It has a particularly personal resonance for me - I'm a historian by profession, but am the child of mathematicians, and have had these same arguments at the dinner table. Even more broadly though, there is a contemporary tension between these competing forms of knowledge - what kinds of learning, study and research is valued and what isn't. For those of us working in universities right now, the struggle between kinds of knowledge at the heart of this book is very real. History requires two parties – the historian and their audience. Without that, one is just talking to oneself. So kindly stop screaming and you might learn something.”Not So Different" Remark: Trazyn and Orikan have a civil talk while cloaked inside a cafe between their antics, deciding to reflect on humanity around them while they are there; despite being a vastly inferior, younger race that they should be scoffing at compared to their might, Trazyn's time around them (especially in the aftermath of the Horus Heresy) eventually shown him a side to humanity that resonates with him enough to have interfered with their history from time to time, something that even catches Orikan's attention as they continue to talk before recognizing that Trazyn is actively comparing humanity to when they were still the Necrontyr in that, despite their weaknesses, mankind like the Necrontyr managed to claim a name for themselves in a cruel galaxy and could have even ruled the galaxy unquestioningly had adversity not threaten to shatter them like it had the Necrons after the War in Heaven. In the end, the question is asked that has both of them stop to contemplate: "would humanity, in their shoes, have agreed to the same deal the Necrontyr made with the C'tan that cost them their souls"?