The recipes are simple, achievable and, a touch of cacao or coconut sugar aside, use easily accessible or store cupboard ingredients. From breakfast (the slow-baked creamy berry and coconut oats recipe is one to bookmark) to speedy lunches (good things on toast, a 10-minute pea and pesto orzo) and tempting traybakes, there are plenty of family-friendly pasta, gnocchi and curry recipes that will appeal to everyone.

I wrote clearly in the first book, ‘Do what works for you’, ‘Adapt it to suit your life’, But that’s nuanced. You have to read it to see it.” She would never have said things like that in the past “because I would have been scared of making people think I’m telling them what to do. Now I think, ‘Here’s the information and you can do with it what suits you.’”After 2017 she admits she did retract and became “quite vanilla” for fear of saying anything. I love that this is no longer considered niche or unconventional and I’m able to share what we do – making simple, natural, plant-based food accessible and delicious – more widely. How do you explain the difference between “plant-based” and “vegan” diets? It’s day and night. The term plant-based was largely unheard of. Now, almost half the population is buying plant-based food products in supermarkets, and conversations around the impact of how we live on our health are part of the mainstream. Despite the increasing number of people moving towards a plant-based diet, there are no clear, evidence-based mainstream books to help anyone looking to adopt this way of eating - either for themselves, or for their family. It can be overwhelming to switch to a plant-based diet, and you may have no idea where to start. Thankfully Ella Mills and her team at deliciously ella have done all the research for you.

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The cost of living crisis just doubles down on that message that health and wellbeing should be simple things,” says Mills. The terms vegan and plant-based have become interchangeable, but the former she explains ­historically represents an ethical stance against animal products, the latter, a health stance. The word “based” for her means more people eating more plants more of the time. “As opposed to, ‘Right, from tomorrow I’m never doing that again!’” she says.

She continued: “But I do understand there’s this misconception, and this nervousness about it, and I think we also have this quite strange, deep-rooted fear of not getting enough protein in society, and almost no-one in the western world is deficient in protein, whereas most of us are very deficient in fibre. Listening to the experts is exactly what Mills has been doing. In 2020 she started a four-year degree at the Institute for Optimum Nutrition. We’ve published about 3,000 plant-based recipes through the various different Deliciously Ella platforms since I started the company, and these are five of my personal go-to’s. They’re simple, delicious, and perfect for busy weeks.” Before you can say “energy ball” we’re talking Blue Zones, habit-forming and willpower. I haven’t even got my dictaphone out. Mills is always prepared for talking about our health, minds and bodies. This is her life’s mission. What else was I expecting from the Queen of Wellness? Her children she states are the most important thing in the world for her, so it is not without some thought that she works long days and ­frequent weekends.

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Hi, I’m Ella,” she says as she shoots an outstretched hand from underneath hair being styled in preparation for our shoot, mere seconds after I walk through the door.