In the myriad tales of UFO encounters, few are as striking as the one described by Scully, citing a gargantuan craft with a staggering diameter of 99 feet (30 m). In 2003, before the Baca-Padilla story was known to the world, a UFO-crash enthusiast named William P. The story, if true, probably would have also involved the commission of heavy federal felonies by Reme Baca himself, and perhaps by others, including Paola Harris. Paola Harris: Well, can I just ask you really quickly what do you remember the creatures looked like?

I had a green pickup that I knew we had traveled in, and I didn’t have the location exactly where, so I went to New Mexico.

That was the piece that looked like aluminum foil that resembled the inside of a Philip Morris cigarette box, which was a light piece of aluminum.

Jose Padilla told Vallee and Harris that he had been a member of the California Highway Patrol for many years, and carried in his body a second troublesome bullet received in the act of apprehending a criminal. Paola Harris: Okay and then later you got other pieces of metal which you took in the space of like a week that they did the clean-up, but is a piece of metal that you just looked at recently that has a lot of little bubbles on it that looks like it has been subjected to heat.But long observation and experience has taught me that in circumstances such as this, in which individuals have a great deal of time and personal credibility invested in a particular set of claims, the response to new and disconfirming evidence is more often generalized denial and deflection, avoiding square confrontation of specific disconfirmations. Additionally, healthy debate is invited; however, ad hominem and or vitriolic attacks will not be published, nor will "anonymous" criticisms. This article, Crash Story: The Trinity UFO Crash Hoax, and the linked Crash Story File series, are based on my journalistic investigations (which had consumed three months, as of May 1, 2023). The details and extensive documentation are found in Crash Story File: Reme Baca (AKA Ray Baca)-- Fantasy Kingmaker, Fabricator of Tall Tales. So in the process of doing that, he named some of his students that were in his class in the article, and omitted Jose and I.